For more pictures or this great day out please click on link http://www.swindonweb.com/event/index.asp?m=40&v=&c=3566&em

The New lean look Chirs Jones with Duncan Goodhew and Mayor of Swindon.

Chris Jones works out at 24HRGYM with his coach Andi Manley who saw the benefits of calorie control as a swimming aid when it was highlighted by 24HRGYM team Vern Montgomery that if they were lighter there would be less “fat to drag” though the water. Not exactly rocket science, but the science of calorie control to achieve this was implemented. Also a very different approach was offered by 24HRGYM with regard to training in that, rather than lift weights to achieve a new weight lift number as a bench mark, it should be considered using the muscle to contract and stretch through resistance e.g., working the muscle and not the technique. It was pointed out that once you detract from the concentration of the contraction, (using the breath) into simply moving a weight A to B, the body would not develop a system to make the weights lifted any easier. As far as the ratio of fat control to calorie was concerned, it was decided this would be far easier for the swimmers to grasp at this stage.

Chris Jones said,

“My main focus approaching these trials is to be stronger and lighter than I have ever been before. I have been using a weight loss programme based on calorie counting for about 4 months and am currently 4 kilograms lighter than my racing weight last year. Combined with the fact that I’m stronger and have been training harder in the pool than ever, I’m hoping this will be the key to me dropping down to the 100m breaststroke Olympic Qualifying time. I have to knock 0.96 of a second off in the heats to achieve this.”

Up against established British international breaststrokers such as Kris Gilchrist, Darren Mew, Chris Cook and James Gibson, Chris Jones’ new leaner look, helped by an understanding of calorie control, will undoubtedly improve his performance in the water.

24HRGYM has weekly radio broadcast with presenter and broadcaster Ian Pugh, Ian wanted to lose weight and wanted to be honest and correct in this project with none of the fabrication and manipulation that he has experienced with some broadcasting shows on weight loss. He went with Vernon Montgomery of the 24HRGYM Team due to their easy and honest approach to diet, and the simplicity of calorie control.

24HRGYM supports Swindon 105.5fm community radio         

Ian came from a completely non-exercise or training perspective and wanted to “know” how all these results were realistically achieved living in the real world of people with social, personal, and work driven life styles of the “ordinary person” not connected to gym culture. We agreed from the start we would only contact each other every Friday or at most an occasional phone call to see if anything came up.
Our goal was to lose Ian 2lbs a week over a mean average (this is the weekly or monthly totals averaged over the week or month period as weight loss or gain changes daily) we will now keep you posted on our results and reasons.

Nick Jones’ debut at the Welsh Natural Bodybuilding championships’ qualifier, on the 29th June 08.  Not only did Nick win his novice class convincingly, but went on to win best posing, best legs, and also won the over-all best physique of the day. All on the same stage, a remarkable achievement and rarely ever seen.
In order to be ready for the challenging competition Nick had to go through a strict regime and said “I trained solid for 12 weeks,” and  “It took loads of dieting, lots of early mornings and no beer.”  “Before the competition I was 15 stone and I went down to 13.”

24HRGYM Team Vernon Montgomery said “He will go on to do well in the finals, and anyone going to the finals should look out for this up and coming star”. “Not only can he be in the same condition as this recent show of low body fat, but actually improve on it by dropping a few pounds to be slightly lighter and tighter”. “Nick has an ace card when it comes to understanding calories and protein, far better than any others in his class”

Nick made front page news in Swindons’ local paper and the 24HRGYM Team were there to support him on the day and to congratulate him and wish him continued success.

Carl Montgomery meets Mark Webber at Red Bull

Carl and Vern of the 24GYM team visited the Red Bull Team at their tyre testing in Silverstone UK, where they were able to get close-up to the machines and mechanics within the Red Bull team. Mark Webber is truly a nice guy, he made time to come over and talk with us and a gave us a warm welcome even though he was working. Despite all the hype and glamour given to Red Bull and Formula One, Mark was a down-to-earth decent guy. We got a close up view and better understanding of how the pit crew worked as a team. There is a great deal of hard work with each person fitting in as a link to a chain, the stronger the links the stronger the chain. All pulling to get Mark and David (Couthald) as far up the constructors’ and drivers’ leader board.

We learned that to be on top of your game your team have to work together, help each other and to get others to reach their goal, and not be discouraged because you’re not seen as a key-player because you’re behind the scenes but let another carry the winning result for everyone else’s combined efforts. We help our members and we help as a team, using science and discipline.

We would like to thank the whole Red Bull team for their hospitality and a very enjoyable day and for letting us photograph and video in the pits.

24HRGYM Team

24HRGYM Instructor Carl Montgomery diets for photo shoot using his knowledge of nutrition and training after five years and dieting for four  months he joined the wall of fame. This is for those members who achieved controlled weight loss and muscle gain.

Carl has been working and training at 24HRGYM for 4 years and wanted to apply the knowledge used by many other successful trainers. Using calorie control and protein control Carl was able to produce a great shape, and proved to be very photogenic. Congratulations Carl well done!!

Kris, with fellow members Aiden and Mark. Mark also completed his calorie control programme and Aiden took advantage of 24HRGYM Team skills in physique photography.

After completing the program Kris sent us a letter with his thoughts and over-view of what he did here at 24HRGYM!

“I’ve been training on and off for several years and kept in fairly good shape but I wanted to tone up so I embarked upon the Sun-Diet with the help of the 24hr team.
The information from the gym owner, Vernon Montgomery, was clear and easy to understand so I set out to achieve the goals I haven’t hit with my training before. Knowing how many calories I take, I began to reduce that amount each week. I didn’t find it that difficult in the first few months and I started to lose weight. By the end of the three months the last few weeks had been hard but were worth it.

I had lost a stone. The weight loss wasn’t my main goal but I got the shape I wanted. It’s a brilliant experience and the help from Vern and the team was a great.  One thing I would say is, if you want to do something like this get the support of your family and professionals like Vern and the 24hr team and don’t ever give up.

This was Kris just starting his diet, the Box in the photo contained all he needed to complete his before and after photo, but at this moment only time was in his way, well done Kris.

When I joined Primebodies I presumed all the pictures on the wall to be of models and that this was to act as an incentive for its members. When more pictures were displayed I learnt that these people actually trained at that very gym and that the aim of many was with the purpose of being featured on the wall itself. I believe that goals will always help people to achieve more out of themselves, so I eventually sort advice on the possibilities of achieving stardom on the wall.

I’ve always had a keen interest in diet and nutrition, however the advice I was given helped me to understand the concept and importance of calories much more than I had done previously and it gave me the edge I needed.

With this help and starting off at 13 stone, I achieved my goal, (which was to build muscle, lose body fat and therefore most importantly gain definition) and finished off two and a half stone lighter. The experience was unforgettable.

I am proud of my achievement and am often saddened to see others (despite trying to share what I have learnt) try so hard yet fail to reach their targets.

The best part of all is that by maintaining healthy eating throughout the week, I can afford to treat myself at weekends. Two years on I’ve still maintained a good physique and am very grateful for all the advice that was given.

Well done to 24HR GYM’s long standing member and respected school teacher Wally Knight. Who, despite never actually running and who’s fitness only comes via weight training, took up a task of completing Swindon’s half marathon in aid of cancer research.

“Hi, my name is Wally Knight and I must be mad as I’ve decided to try the Swindon Half Marathon on October 14th 2007 to raise all I can for Cancer Research.

I don’t run and only do weights but I’m trying to prove how weight training can help you in all areas of fitness. (I am told am mad! If you can sponsor me, that would be great.)”

After completing the task on October 14th 2007, Wally Knight would like to thank 24HR GYM members who sponsored him.

Alan Guilford
Mark Shanks
Amanda Round
Shane Moore
Janet Blackford
Stuart Maule
Shaun C
Vince Conlon
K Dumba
Dave Daniels
L Haines
P Melton
D Baker
A Giles
Wendy Rees
Clive Truscott
Stephan Lenartowski
Gareth Naffine
Nigel Taylor

Ollie Bridewell tragically died competing in the sport he loved. We supported and sponsored this up-and-coming star. The tragic accident happened at Mallory Park on Friday 20th July 2007.

For those wishing to know more, can find all about Ollie and his great achievements by simply searching his name in a search engine. There are many others who did more for Ollie

Click here to find out more about Ollie Bridewell.

We had a brief opportunity to help Ollie when he came to 24HR GYM and asked us to sponsor him. His great C.V. gave us no hesitation. Ollie did leave us with a signed photo saying “Thank you for all your help in 2006”

The photo will be respectfully displayed on the entrance stair case to the gym.

A tribute to Ollie was aired on ITV1.

Congratulations to the 30 entrants from the 24Hr Gym who entered various categories of the Swindon challenge. We came first and second in the main event of the day the dragon boat and first in the football.

It was Swindon’s answer to the corporate games recently held in Swindon. Although 24Hr Gym attracts people who take their training more seriously and attracts high level accomplished trainers and national and international level, we were “capped” by the entry requirements.
No county-level entrants could take part, this made us have to rethink who we could enter. So it came as a surprise when semi-pro and county level competitors turned up at the karting complete with designer gear and own helmets. With even former employees of the company hosting the karting in this team!

We managed third due to a technicality (in fact we were 2nd) we had team captain Delroy King, who was our Lewis Hamilton of the day, who really gave the sneaky pro entrants a skid for their money.

The football was captained by AJ (Adam James Mayhew) who took the team all the way to gold, well done Ajarman, who often quotes that he “does not do losing”.

The boat race captained by Andi Manley, being a former swimming world record holder was not allowed to compete in the swimming event and non of his swimming team due to county level status, so opted for another event, but the result was going to be the same from his team well done!

Mark Simpkins worked alone and no one saw his efforts but we all become aware of the result, again this was run in a spurious way, the handicaps were given prior to tee off, and so reflected the goal or par of the entrants, so those who knew the criteria found it easy to not be honest with their handicap.

As for the event, we were promised photos etc from the emailed to us …non have turned up. And press coverage of which 24Hr Gym awaited eagerly to see, was surprisingly focused of entrants who placed 3rd in the football were featured and not the winners (24Hr Gym). Likewise with the Dragon Boat, it featured a company who sponsored the event.

Strange seeming it was a “challenge” and not a charity event, I thought a challenge was to gain and display the best, not just say “look at who all took part”. We all got goodie bags complete with balloon? Pen? And Tea shirt? With a leaflet promoting Swindon challenge event.

Pity it was not free passes to Swindon Council run sporting establishments, which would have been much more fitting. But we were told its Swindon’s first event like this and next year they would get it as right. The weather played a great part with glorious sunshine a few got gloriously burned in the boats, very good for the members and their families who all had a great day out at Coate Water Park.

Check out the Challenge Swindon website for more details about the whole festival.
www.challengeswindon.org.uk

Check out the BBC Wiltshire website for their story and photo gallery.
www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/articles/2007/06/05/dragon_race_alex_feature.shtml

24HR GYM MEMBER AND ARTIST MIKE MILLER, RECENTLY SOLD HIS ARTWORK DESIGN TO THE GYM

The image was put onto canvas after 60 hours of work the end result transformed onto a 4 ft by 4 ft canvas.

The clarity of the design and quality of the oil paint mixing was brilliant.

We offered to sponsor Mike so he can invest to help and further his work.

The picture is at the exit of the gym for people to find their own impression of the image.

This one off painting has the content sought by all artists old and modern, thats in its thought provoking quality.

Congratulations Mike.

And hope to see more of his work soon

The 24HR GYM team

On any Bodybuilders must have list

Original 8mm Cine film of bodybuilding legends and greats, now available on DVD for £9.95 plus P&P .

It features a host of legends - Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sergio Oliva, Reg Parks, Bertil Fox Frank Zane and a great posing display from the late Mike Mentzer. A real must have for any bodybuilding enthusiast. Highly recommended by Vern.

This original film has been copied onto CD direct from 24hrgyms  personal collection. The original 8mm Cine film is the inspirational, motivational posing of Arnold beating Sergio Oliva for the first time in 1974. Sergio has never been seen so big!... neither has Arnold… seeing is believing! Also included is young Frank Zane’s fantastic posing routine.

“We absolutely loved the footage! It was a real surprise to see such legends on a one-to-one with the camera, excellent, thank you!”
Emma, Hinckley, Leicestershire

Chris Dickerson in 2 films - weeks apart - show before and after dieting and posing. Bodybuilding legend Reg Parks. Guest posing.

It features the late Mike Mentzer flexing on the beach in Santa Monica. With triceps Ernie Taylor would admire. Bertil Fox can be no more than 21 years old, complete with his massive arms and his usual some-what questionable posing ability.

The mind-blowing Sergio Oliva!! You can see for your self why it was in controversial circumstances in Essen Germany that he was beaten in 1974 by Arnold. Make your own decision. Sergio said afterwards that they changed the appearance on stage order in favour of Arnold going on stage first - right at the last minute!

Not only have you got Arnold and Sergio posing separately, prior to the show, but we also have live footage of the show itself. Make your own decision. Was Sergio robbed? The jury is out on that one.

Roger Callard, Surge Nubret and Franco Colombo can also be seen in cameo parts.

Please note, due to the amateur footage no music or narrative is included. Running time 45 minutes approx.

You can obtain a copy of this unique one-off DVD by emailing info@24hrgym.co.uk

All DVD copyright remains 24hrgym

Ross Harvey, sponsored by the 24HR GYM and Sun Diet, has just returned from the Laser Radial European Championships at Riccione on the Italian Adriatic Coast. He sailed an excellent regatta and was delighted to finish 6th and top Briton in a high-class men’s fleet. This followed a successful spring campaign which has seen him reach the top 10 in the UK rankings.

The Laser Radial is the women’s Olympic single-handed dinghy and although Ross has had some tempting offers to team up as training partner with the top women, he is putting his own ambitions first and is now moving on to the Laser Standard, the men’s Olympic single-hander.

This means continuing the hard work in the gym (and packing in the calories!) to reach the required optimum weight (80kg) whilst retaining aerobic fitness. Ross is still just 20 years old and his goal is the 2012 Olympic Games which will be held in this country with the sailing events taking place at Weymouth.

With no other funding at present (and expensive equipment and travel costs to meet) Ross doesn’t have the luxury of being able to train full-time and works as a sailing and outdoor activity instructor at South Cerney Outdoor Education Centre. Gym sessions are fitted in on week-day evenings, and every weekend and day off is spent on the water, mostly sailing out of Hayling Island Sailing Club. A few more low key competitions are planned for this summer, before the next round of ‘Qualifiers’ starts in the Autumn, with ranking positions and GBR team places at stake.


If you would like more information about dinghy sailing or can help Ross’ campaign in any way, please contact him via the 24HR GYM.

ROSS HARVEY PROFILE

Calories in, calories out. That’s what it’s all about. Always has been and always will be. Why? Because they are one of the things that remains constant and so can be measured, quantified and eventually controlled.  So, in essence, anything that conforms in any way to be PART of a calorie controlled diet will work. But!! We find it so strange no one actually tells you how to find this calorie controlled part.

As for the  other “part” it is suggested an exercise/machine, pill or supplement can be used and even surgery. However, if these other aids only help as PART of a calorie controlled diet… then only part of the story is being divulged. Claiming results from the calorie part, that is not explained, is giving you access to only part of the process.

This method of informing the public is used  because it helps to prevent  any legal action being taken as no organisation is allowed to imply that what is being offered by them is better than any calorie controlled diet.

What can legally be said is,

“It will only work along side/as part/in combination/with a calorie/kilo joule/energy controlled/restricted program”.

Most people  know that calories are the least understood  part of any weight loss programme advised/advertised to them. So how can any programme work if calories are not understood? Simple… they do not work. Or at best they only work for a few weeks or months.

But if calories are ignored  altogether,  the general public will end up back in the same groove or saddle they were in before. Here at the 24HRGYM the Sundiet has been developed with this problem in mind and it is both honest and correct.

Important points

1. Calories are a unit of heat.  This heat comes from the sun and its heat can be measured just like any other measurement.  A Gas bill shows consumption/usage based on a meter reading. Calories consumed can also be measured and their energy value understood like any other currency. Too many calories and you “get fat”. Reduce calories and you “get thin”.
   The Sun’s energy is trapped in the leaves of a tree and when the leaves and   wooden branches are burned  the resulting fire releases this very heat which has been stored.  The same result can be found from burning coal, fossilised fuel oils and all ancient sun- trapped substances.  Also, all growing plant life, including plants used for food, store energy/heat from the sun which can be burned in a calorific meter. Eventually this information ends up written on the side of food packets as “nutritional information”. A calorie is not a calorie unless it represents heat! Body fat is  stored heat. Or to put it another way it is heat that has been eaten.
2. It is this measuring and controlling of the accumulated heat that is often difficult for people to understand and, more importantly, to put into practice. Although it is never actually opposed in theory.
3. It is not even known how to assess what calories have been consumed prior to any reduction but because this information is not known does not mean it can be ignored as a correct science.  In fact, there is all the more reason to simplify the information rather than avoid it and put across a less meaningful concept.

Having worked in the field of weight loss for over 25 year the 24HRGYM team have developed their own system and Work Book to help put these concepts into practice.  Not on an “intellectual” level but on a “practical” level which can be applied in your own home and within the family environment.

This innovative programme is called the “Sun Diet” which is a calorie controlled programme using only foods produced by the sun hence the name ”Sundiet”. All pulses, grains, nuts and seeds are included and, of course, the well known fruit and vegetables. Also, cleverly included for all meat eaters, is the meat from any animal that has eaten and lived off food that has been produced by the sun. e.g. beef, unfarmed fish and corn- fed chicken. And their free range eggs. After all it is said that there is nothing new under the sun. We feel that it is only when the health-giving foods from the sun and the heat measurement of calories are ignored  that people  get fat and become unhealthy and ill.

Check out our web site to see how we are now making this revolutionary program available to you, today!!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Martin Durruzzio is the latest member to make the Wall of Fame which displays members’ results and places their photos on the wall.

The Wall of Fame was started by Vern Montgomery whilst in his gym in Bournemouth 10 years ago. It all began when he decided to present seminars on diet and nutrition together with advice on how to control calories for weight loss.  Vern realised, coming from a competitive bodybuilding back-ground, that to look good on stage it was necessary to have low body fat in order to reveal muscle and this also applied to people who just wanted to have a “six pack” who could use a similar but more simplistic system.

Some intelligent or curious trainers questioned the idea more, and then applied this simple practical science. Time after time the results remained the same and as proof of his success Vern decided to take photographs and establish a Wall of Fame.

Vern originally used celebrity photographer Mark Easton but after developing so many  physiques eventually Mark Easton, being the copy right holder of the photos, went on to form a web site using all gym members’ photos claiming he “Found beauty in the human form”. I guess after you learn how to control the calories you can reveal what you want to people and they will interpret the result for themselves.

Vern realised that if you had a great shape (low body fat) any good photographer would find beauty in the human form but it is necessary to have a brilliant photographer and proper light manipulation in order to make a person who is not in shape look good. On the other hand any good photographer can make a person in great shape look brilliant even in natural light.

So nowadays Vern makes his own photos or will use any enthusiastic local photographer. 

Martin Durruzzio achieved a great shape with having a very low level of body fat, and can he can  attain that shape, at will, whenever he chooses.
Congratulations!!

Martin’s story can be found on sundiet web site.

As some may or may not know Johnny Fuller, one of England’s best ever bodybuilders, passed away this year.

He was a good friend and someone who I used to train with many years ago. He helped me get ready for the UK finals in 1989 where I placed 3rd. He was an incredible trainer. I felt his intensity first hand and as he has been one of the people I have most respected.

I recall training legs with him on one occasion in which he sat me on my backside. We were doing giant set circuits at a gym where he lived in Swindon where you go from one exercise to the other without stopping.  During giant sets one muscle group is chosen - say legs - and then have to choose 8-10 exercises that cover that particular group. Then you have to go from one exercise to the other in a slow and even pace but non-stop and only resting at the end of the circuit.  I clearly remember one of those exercises was 5 plate (500 lbs) squats.  This was the first time I had to sit down and watch my training partner (Johnny) carry on as though the training session was just a day in the office but without me.  It was a humbling experience to say the least.

Here are some photos of the 1989 UK finals - Vern placing 3rd with support crew Johnny Fuller and Lorne Mccalla.

Now I know the difference between a good bodybuilder, and a professional bodybuilder. A lesson I will never forget.

I was pleased to be asked by Derek Peoples to speak at his funeral. I knew Johnny only from a body building perspective, and recollected some other memorable moments.

View the Johnny Fuller photo gallery

As usual, unfortunately we found some Members of Parliament, did not speak in a natural common language but were more interested in pontification. Vernon and Vincent Montgomery visited the Houses of Parliament to attend the National Obesity Forum (NOF) and witnessed what a difficult problem the Government face in making policies and debates on tackling obesity.

Calorie teachers and brothers Vernon and Vincent visited the House of Commons to sit in on a debate hosted by the (NOF) National Obesity Forum with Dr Ian Campbell as Chairman.  It was a debate on trying to find a cure for obesity with selected M.P.s attending.

We witnessed an endless array of people who stood up and gave lectures on statistics and percentages regarding the current trends of the obesity epidemic.  But we found it strange that nothing was put forward to recommend any possible cures or workable procedures.

In a nut shell, Dr Ian Campbell was trying to convince everyone to get more money per head from the Government to “compensate” doctors for the amount of people they had to treat, and  the little time they have to treat them.  So having more money available was Dr. Campbell’s recommendation and being a Doctor, he wanted obesity to come under the GMS (General Medical Services) and of course paid for accordingly.

We do not consider the view that Doctors, offering a wide range of services called “alternative options, such as surgery and prescription pills, is the answer either.  Please visit the NOF Web Site for more information on this. Then there was one M.P who, after talking for some time on the subject left, never to return, after having said his piece.  His diary for the day no doubt filled.

Another M.P spoke of  Supplement aids and Nutritional Supplements being a possible way forward. He also mentioned he had a close relationship with a Supplement Company in this area of research.

The sad fact was that half of the attendees were themselves overweight and one of the chief speakers, who had a very large stomach, would  himself have derived some benefit from a few lessons on calorie control.

Most of the people in the chamber were “sent” by some respected company or other for Public Relation purposes.

I grabbed my chance to stand up and say something during this intellectual lecture on statistics and bidding for government contracts and directed a question to a very overweight person, sat in an important and prominent part of the Chamber, who could obviously be seen by everyone in the room. This gentleman obviously held some position of authority so  I asked him “How many calories had he eaten that day”?

This question was likewise  directed to the rest of the room.

Does anyone in this Obesity Forum know how many calories they had eaten that day?

Of course the room remained silent.

One of the causes of obesity is because no one, not even these members of the Obesity Forum, understands the full implications of calorie control. So it is easy to eat too many calories if you are not aware of their value.

A problem that is “common” throughout in the Forum of Obesity is that if a knowledge of calories was prevalent these people would not be obese.

This is precisely my point.  If these respected people, who govern policy, do not have the complete picture regarding calorie intake then how will lesser intelligent people know how to gain control? I say lesser intelligent because one speaker went on to demonstrate by statistics that it is the less educated or lower-income people who tend to be the most obese.

That’s precisely the reason that  policies should be put across in a language that is simplistic enough for everyone to understand..

The point I was trying to make was that more calorie teachers are needed. Teachers who not only talk about calories but who can literally show people how to find them day to day and week to week and explain about them in simple terms that everyone understands.  The Members all looked bemused by my point when I asked how many of them knew how many calories they had, at any time, in their busy office day. Nevertheless, weight loss is ONLY successful when used as part of a calorie controlled diet.

I happened to have NOF’s own web site definition on weight loss/management (click here to view)...

Indeed we agree with NOF’s “How Weight loss works” and why you need a calorie teacher who can teach people, in simple terms, how 2000 or 2500 calories are calculated.

That’s why we have the present  epidemic because no-one knows how to find this calorie, or the reason for the increase of calorie intake. Indeed anyone can write and use mathematics to support their argument.  I will quote the words that best sum this up from Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman, who served on the NASA Challenger investigation.  I quote:-

“For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.”

Because we have failed to communicate the importance of understanding the currency of the calorie and its’ correct evaluation, does not mean that it does not exist.  It means that those in control of education in this country do not completely understand it themselves

The Education Department of the Government who are responsible for the health of the nation need calorie control teachers just like electric circuits need the skill of an electrician and a 6 mm bolt needs a 6 mm spanner. Otherwise why quote how weight loss works? Giving more public funds in GMS grants to Doctors is not the answer.  Good calorie control teachers with good communication skills are the right tools for the job. 

We wanted to have our theory of calorie control tested and obtain a  practical understanding on the best that was in the area, from the NHS.  We believe that if you have an opinion, it is best to have it tested by the Professionals.

So, we invited the Heads of the South West Obesity and Weight Management Departments in the Great Western Hospital in Swindon to meet us at our 24hrgym in Swindon.

As we are calorie teachers we wanted to show these Professionals what we are doing that is, in our opinion, so revolutionary different to other calorie teaching systems.


We were hoping to get a White Paper,  as suggested, to be “recognised” by the
“establishment” as we were informed that this was the correct path to take when establishing a concept. We were also told that we needed to obtain their Seal of approval first and that the first step on our ladder of success was dependent on them.  

So in the presence of:

Mark Banbury - Senior Dietitian, Nutrition Support
Lynda Webb - Nutrition and Dietetic Services Manager S & M NHS Trust
Clair Baber - Chief Dietitian, TGW S & M NHS Trust
Hanna Fishlock - Department Specialist Dietitian in Obesity


The above members attended the meeting some-what late, but they did turn up.
We presented them with a simple concept in calorie understanding. Each member gave their own opinion regarding weight control, all of which we unfortunately dismissed as irrelevant in curing obesity. The only correct way, in our opinion, to attain this objective was to understand calories.

In frustration, we gave them an example of how respected educators were out of  touch with objective nutrition. After some time we did not feel that we were making any head-way so a hypothetical question was put forward for them to answer in order to prove that they had not objectified their opinion from a subjective viewpoint. The hypothetical question was:

We asked each one of them to imagine that  there was an imminent disaster pending and everyone had to move to a place underground in order to survive and remain there  for 3 months  with the following criteria:.
Ventilation, oxygen and hygiene were not a problem.
We could take as much water as we wanted.
Light and heat was not a problem.
Only one food could be chosen to ensure our survival. And depending on the validity of that answer we would be able to evaluate collectively, who was the nutrition expert and consequently would accept their advice.

The  three members thought for a while.

Lynda Webb said “chocolate” (We were surprised I must say).
Clair Baber said “potatoes”.
Mark Banbury the Senior Dietitian declined to answer the question. (?)

I gave them a clue, mentioning that there was a particular food that feeds a third of the world’s population today.  Mr. Banbury still remained silent so I suggested a good food would be rice due to its high storage ability and nutritional content, especially if it was brown rice

We also explained that, in our opinion, dropping down chocolate or potatoes on to starving people would not be appreciated. The members did not seem to be impressed with the fact that we had tested them but they did show an interest in obtaining our Work Book which they said they wanted to “look at and consider”.  We decided to decline their offer.

When we asked Lynda Webb how she works out her calories, she replied
“I do it, like you do” of course.  On reflection it would have been more sensible had I asked her this question prior to showing her how we did do it.  We are calorie teachers so, of course, we know how to work them out and there is only one way this can be done so we had no intention of pretending to do it differently.
 
We later sent them an email asking for an assessment as they had told us previously that we need to obtain this from them.  Especially as Lynda Webb had used the same method as we do ourselves in order to work out her own calories.

Here is the email I sent…


However, since our meeting, we have sent other email and made many telephone calls we have had one limp response from Mark Banbury. We are puzzled why they have avoided and ignored us as, in our opinion, we are only showing other members of the public how to work out calories which is what Lynda Webb claims to do anyway.
Hannah Fishlock did not attend and we have never had any feed back except the following message from Mark Banbury:


Hi Vernon

Thanks for inviting us to your presentation.
Sorry its taken a while to get back to you.
I have passed on feedback to Hannah as she is the department specialist dietitian in obesity.

Mark Banbury
Senior Dietitian - Nutrition Support
The Great Western Hospital
Swindon SN3 6BB


I managed after many unreturned calls to finally speak with Lynda Webb who said quite simply,

“Your mathematics on explaining calories add up.”

Well thank you very much Lynda Webb we have spent 25 years doing this I am sure they do, the funny thing is yours do not. Even If they did she is totally unaware of it.

The best analogy here is the “blind leading the blind”.

Lynda Webb has her own policy on effective weight loss, see if you can understand it, or have the ability to even read it. I stressed our simplistic approach is far superior to her intellectual approach; I will let you decide yourself.

Download the “Swindon and Marlborough Obesity Strategy” (PDF).

——-Original Message——-
From: Vernon Montgomery
Sent: 14 October 2005 17:28
To: Hannah
Cc: vince; Mark; Claire
Subject: Meeting with Fat Research.U.K

Dear Hannah.

Re: Sundiet

It was great to meet yourself, Mark and Claire on Tuesday 11th Oct. in which we discussed our new concept. The purpose of this meeting was for your personal opinion on our system with regards incorporating it with in the NHS. The main reason for our meeting on Tuesday 11th Oct was from a previous telephone conversation with yourself in which you suggested we operate this within Swindon first and our first port of call should be in obtaining a white paper from yourself for us to be recognised. Could you please inform me as to the feasibility of this in view of what you have seen.

As you can appreciate all information is confidential until its official launch on Jan 4th 06. We have put together the program in a format and application in our work book which will be ready next week and would like to book an appointment with you at your earliest convenience to show you the improved format.

We have 3 more meetings planned in the coming months which includes the BBC, and M.P for Swindon.

As part of our research we would very much like to interview you on what’s currently being used within the NHS at the moment. To add momentum to our research we would like a conclusion and forward to our program which we can use as merit in arranging further meetings.

We learned did something new from yourself at the meeting, in the support after the program as you rightly say most fall away after a few months. We have developed something unique in this after care so lacking in other programs. We have also considered a year guarantee to the individual and should the NHS pay for the program the Health government can recoup any fees already paid to us in full on any failures in the program for up to 1 year.

We are also looking for further contacts with other obesity research groups here and in U.S.A if you have any suggestions for us please let us know if you recommend any contacts for us.

We would greatly appreciate a personal opinion from Mark and Claire individually on their personal thoughts regarding the meeting on the sundiet. Positive or negative and any recommendations they may offer. We would also like to mention to them all information on the sundiet is confidential and for their opinion only at this stage and appreciate their non disclosure.

Is this something you would like to see us do within the NHS or we could choose a more commercial route and come back to you in a year as you suggested. We would appreciate consideration in working with a group of obese individuals for free to aid a decision in the future.

We would be more than happy to attend any board meeting which mentions this concept if you could let me know if this is your intention.

In view of what you have seen what do you think should be our next positive move.
I await your reply with interest.

Kind regards.

Good Health
Vern & Vince Montgomery

Sundiet

24HR GYM would like to extend a very big thanks to Mark Cater, his lovely wife Lisa and their dog spikey! For all their support in the early stages.

If ever any members happen to be in Bournemouth town centre next to Bliss 'n' Tokos from midnight onwards and are feeling hungry, you will find him and his crew banging out healthy fast food faster than anyone else.

Please don't ask for a freebie, one reason could be he has given enough already. The real reason is he hates being damn rude when being asked. Good luck Mark and Lisa Cater.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Saturday 13th November @ 10.30pm - 3am
Contact us at 24HR GYM for more details.

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