Can you been toned but not muscled?
Can you be firmed but not toned?
Can you be all 3?

There we go again, we re-invent new words to make old words more "acceptable" to women, or those with "associated" thinking of what other words mean. "I want to be firm but i don't like big muscles" it does not matter if you want to be firm toned or muscle its all the same thing there are not degrees of firmness, or is extreme firmness muscle? is all muscle degrees of HOW YOU associate with the word, You cannot firm fat,fat has its own metabolic pathway and operates on different sets of rules as much as chalk and cheese on a the same dinner table. The muscle has stages of production first you get firm, or toned then past this is showing the muscles shape So the work load merely increases to sustain and improve muscular size, women for that matter, will never be able to describe themselves as muscled, as they have not the ability (naturally)to produce the fear they are considering, firming, and toning tends to be feminine required description, and muscle tends to be a mans wanted description.

To anyone it takes lot of damn hard work over a consistent amount of time over a controlled nutritional requirement, alternatively some people look muscled like Thai boxers, madonna, lara croft who spend months getting their body fat down (which covers muscles)to give the *appearance* of more muscles, thai boxers (bruce lee) have very low body fats and like wise,very low in comparison in body weight.

The illusion of shape can be manipulated by dropping down body fat which will bring in the waist a lot more than the reduction in shoulder width giving that "appearance" of a muscular transformation, together with a bit of sweat, and tan it can be impressive to see.

As this body fat comes down of course your opinion of how she looks is now your association of how you want to describe it.she is now toned, or well firmed to muscled all in the drop of body fat.

Good health